Thursday, 19 December 2024

Can even Trump get something right?

 

The Western Mail carried a story earlier this week (which I can’t find online, but basically seems to be a fairly minor edit of this story from three weeks ago) about the problem of desertion facing the Ukrainian armed forces. We knew, of course, that the Russian armed forces were suffering from desertion as well as draft avoidance in the light of the serious level of casualties, but the media in ‘the west’ have seemingly been reluctant to report that the same issue is impacting the Ukrainian armed forces. Whilst it’s credible that Russian problems have been greater than those faced by Ukraine, it’s reasonable to suspect that the gap might not be as large as a less-than-entirely-unbiased media might have us believe. And the fact that Ukraine is suffering its own problem with a high level of desertion should come as no surprise.

It raises a much bigger – and more general – question as to whether the sort of large scale ground war for which the generals and some politicians keep telling us we should be preparing will ever be possible in the future in the same way as it was in the past. The report tells us that the US has been urging Ukraine “to draft more troops, and allow for the conscription of those as young as 18”, since the current minimum age for conscription is 25. Leaving to one side the moral issue of whether anyone should be urging a country to send even more of its people, and at an even younger age, into a vicious and bloody war where many of them will be killed or injured, I found myself wondering how realistic it is in the modern world to expect that people, particularly young people, will willingly comply with an order to go out and kill ‘for their country’. We’re not in the first half of the twentieth century when information flows could be easily controlled, and where jingoism was a fairly normal phenomenon. People – even in dictatorships like Russia – have much easier access to information about what’s happening. Pro patria mori has never been particularly dulce or decorum whatever the politicians might tell us, and that was precisely the point which Wilfred Owen was making more than a century ago. Mass conscription for a major war in the twenty-first century is likely to be problematic for any country which attempts it, with resistance running very high.

Trump has said that he will end the war on day 1 of his renewed presidency. I struggle to understand his drivers. He says it is to stop the killing, which would be a noble enough aim; but coming from a man who has no previous record of concern for anyone other than himself, it doesn’t immediately strike me as being likely. After himself, those about whom he most seems to care are other billionaires, but we know that capitalist billionaires are amongst those who most benefit from war through their investments in the arms industry. It might simply be, for Trump, a case of not spending US money to support another country. That would certainly seem to fit with his ‘America First’ outlook, even if it shows a certain ignorance of the relationship between US government spending on armaments and the overall value of shares on the New York Stock Exchange, which seems to be Trump’s only metric of economic success.

However, whatever his rationale is (to the extent that he has one at all) his conclusion that the immediate priority should be to stop the fighting and killing is difficult to disagree with. And since Ukraine does not have – and without a massive injection of military manpower and firepower from friends and allies is unlikely ever to have – sufficient forces to recapture all its lost territory, an end to the fighting necessarily implies a redrawing of boundaries, on at least a temporary basis. Expecting Ukraine to cede vast swathes of territory in order to buy peace is neither fair nor just, but in the absence of any other basis for agreeing a peace deal, it is surely no worse than the current US position of telling Ukraine to simply conscript more young people who can be ‘expended’ in an ongoing war with no obviously better outcome in sight. There aren’t many boundaries in the world which aren’t the result of a war, a treaty following a war, or arbitrary lines drawn on a map by colonial masters. 

‘Might is right’ is a lousy basis on which to run a planet, but unless and until we collectively find a better way, it’s the basis on which almost all of the world’s current boundaries exist. Supporting the idea that a free and independent country should cede territory to one autocratic bully at the behest of another autocratic bully is uncomfortable, to say the least; but encouraging Ukraine to fight to the last Ukrainian would feel even less comfortable. The devil will, of course, lie in the detail and in the mechanisms for ensuring the integrity of any new boundaries. But on the principle, even Trump might be able to get something right, even if not based entirely on rational analysis or concern for fellow humans.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Does Adam Price still stand with Ukraine, I wonder ? Amongst the most reckless statements ever made by a Plaid Cymru leader, akin to Michael Foot's wonderful but (With the benefit of hindsight) mistaken speech in the debate immediately after the Malvinas invasion. It's a strange world where pacifists are looking to Donald Trump to halt a war. Peace and freedom don't always go hand in hand, I'm afraid. Some Ukranians will find this out soon. It's better for 10% to be oppressed than 11% to be killed. Nobody dare say this openly, of course.

Anonymous said...

I would agree with Anonymous that Adam Price support for Ukraine and NATO is most strange , as Plaid Cymru has been steadfast for decades in its rejection of NATO.
I agree with you that the one-sided news feed does in no way give us the complete story ,and the West massive miscalculation from the Clinton administration onwards has landed us where we are, and to hide this disaster billions are being spent, and the narrative is being controlled.
Donald John ,however, has called out many things right and must have got things right more than the average person. If we calculated your financial capital and mine ,he would still be slightly ahead of us. He has stood for a national election and won twice. I did not stand for elections; in fact, the high point of my political career was that I was put on a candidates list in my youth but only lasted seven weeks when the powers that-be gave me the sack. So, I would disagree that he is a disaster, even that clever man Mr Lammy is looking forward to deal with his administration.
The only quick fix I can see open to him is to crash the oil price by 60% as Russia would run out of cash in six hours and out of credit in two weeks. While the relationship between England and the US is of no consequence except in the minds of the English, the relationship to watch is that of the USA and Saudi Arabia.

Spirit of BME said...

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Spirit of BME said...

I have seen some friend’s companies go bankrupt and that usually buries them for life. The people that get up and come back and I have known only one or two, are quiet something else.
Donald John, in his first administration identified some issues and got it right – he called out the Euro and the Yuan as rigged to control their value. From the 20th I suspect that issue will be in his crosshairs and sanctions will be applied. Which are always a blunt instrument that damages both sides. He builds a partial wall with Mexico which acted as a deterrent ,and while the EU objected, the most successful walls have been built in EU states. He handed Dear Mutty a white napkin as a surrender flag in a reception and told her that addiction to cheap Russian gas is not going to end well. Poor Mutty.
Donald John is a businessperson and not a politician and while businesspeople have egos that match most senior politicians, I have found their thinking is uncluttered and totally focussed. What is dangerous, as I read it, he will not have the right to stand again ,so taking decisions that will look to get re-elected is not on the table, and he controls the Supreme Court, Congress and all the federal levers. The system was not designed to do that no matter who is in post.
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John Dixon said...

Making a comeback from a bankruptcy in one business is always going to be easier for those who have other lines of business, not to say a substantial inheritance on which to fall back. Such circumstances are not necessarily indicative of any particular talent or ability.
It is, indeed, true that Trump "is a businessperson and not a politician", although opinions vary as to how successful he's really been in that role. And you may well be right that in relation to businesspeople in general, "their thinking is uncluttered and totally focussed", but it doesn't follow that that is true for all businesspeople. The extrapolation isn't automatic. And there can surely be few who've ever listened to one of Trump's speeches who would conclude that his thinking is uncluttered or focussed.
Whilst you are right in saying that " he will not have the right to stand again", I'm less than entirely convinced that he won't find some way of trying to extend his term of office, or that he will let mere questions of legality stand in his way. The American constitution and legal framework is about to be tested as never before; whether it gets through those challenges successfully is yet to be seen. Many are saying that we shouldn't take him at his word - I can only hope that they are right.