Monday 8 May 2023

The right time is now

 

For monarchists, there is, apparently, never a ‘right’ time to talk about the question of monarchy vs republic. Whilst one monarch reigns for 70 years, it is an issue which can be deferred until she dies; when she dies, such a debate would be disrespectful; and when a new monarch is crowned, it is disloyal and unpatriotic to raise the issue. That takes us back to the start point where there is an unchallengeable reigning incumbent albeit without the 70 years of reigning, even if he has been busy cutting ribbons and opening things. And so the issue goes largely undebated and life carries on. Few boats are rocked.

Those who support the idea that the head of state should be a hereditary position argue that it gives us a degree of stability under the late queen and the current king that we would not have with an elected president. They often posit the choice between the late queen and a recent political villain of choice – Trump, say, or Blair. Reducing the choice to named individuals might make it easier to opt for the monarch of the day, but it’s a verbal sleight of hand. There are other potential presidents. Presidency can be executive or ceremonial; assuming them to be the same thing is a deliberate attempt at deception. It is more realistic to suggest that the choice could be between a hereditary monarch and a president such as Michael Higgins of Ireland. And there are also other royals. It is by accident of birth that we now have King Charles rather than King Andrew. Whilst a choice between two billionaires such as Charles and Trump might lead many to prefer Charles, I strongly suspect that were the choice to be between Andrew and Michael Higgins, supporters of hereditary appointments might rapidly find themselves in a minority. But choosing between the two options on the basis of which individuals might end up in the job is, in any event, a poor argument for one system over the other. Even if it’s the best argument that the monarchists have. Especially if it’s the best argument that the monarchists have.

It's true, of course, that in a republic we could end up with the ‘wrong’ person in the job. It’s also true that in a monarchy we could end up with the ‘wrong’ person in the job. But in the first case, there is a mechanism for removal at a subsequent election whilst in the second, there is not. We potentially have to wait 70 years (although not for the current incumbent, obviously, despite the call as part of the crowning ceremony that he should live forever). Elections can get it ‘wrong’ - democracy allows us to make bad choices as well as good ones. But whether a choice is good or bad is in the eye or mind of the beholder; it’s not an absolute. Surprisingly, not everyone agrees that Johnson was a disaster, for example. And it is, at least, our choice in a way that hereditary succession is not.

“Not my King” has become a popular slogan of late, and in the sense that none of us chose him, it’s true. We are, though, his subjects, whether we like it or not. As the Archbishop of the established church in England made clear in the ceremony on Saturday, he consecrated Charles as “King over the peoples, whom the Lord your God has given you to rule and govern”. And whilst the Church holds sway only in England, the people given to Charles by god, according to the archbish, include those in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland as well as sundry other remnants of conquest. The idea that we are ‘given’ to a monarch as subjects to be ruled over is a fiction, of course. But it’s a fiction which goes to the very heart of the English constitution. The authority of parliament and the government stems from the crown not from the people; it stems from the fiction that they rule in the name of and on behalf of the Protestant Christian god; and it's a fiction of which last Saturday’s events rather forcefully reminded us.

It’s often argued that, for practical purposes on a day to day basis, ditching the monarch for an elected and purely ceremonial president would make little difference to most of us. If it were possible to make such a simple single change, that would be true. But from an establishment perspective – and there is little difference between the Tories and Labour on this issue – a debate on converting the UK to a republic is a very large can of worms. Challenging the fiction at the centre of the constitution challenges a great deal more which is taken for granted. It isn’t just about who fills the role of head of state and how he or she is chosen – it’s about the relationship between the people and power, and about on whose behalf actions are taken. It’s actually a very big deal – and a long overdue change.


7 comments:

An Eye On... said...

At 64% in favour of a monarchy in recent polling, I don't think the monarchists will have a problem supporting a referendum over the issue.

Republicans would have a nightmare trying to devise a completely non-political Presidency with powers limited and controlled the way they are for a Monarch.

Anyone wanting to look at a bit of number-crunching for the English locals last week, you can find my thoughts here:-

http://thepeoplesflag.blogspot.com/2023/05/english-local-election-results-may-2023.html

John Dixon said...

"Republicans would have a nightmare trying to devise a completely non-political Presidency with powers limited and controlled the way they are for a Monarch." Really?

An Eye On... said...

The public would not support presidential candidates with a political 'history' - be that having been a politician, representing a party, representing heavy interest groups such as unions, environmental, etc etc. They would only go for this if candidates were completely non-political and never having been politicised.

The likes of Blair, a former union leader, a religious figure, Germaine Greer type person etc etc would be unacceptable, They would need a totally 'clean' history.

John Dixon said...

"The public would not support presidential candidates with a political 'history'" Maybe, maybe not. But it looks an awful lot like an opinion stated as though it were fact.

Other countries manage quite well to have ceremonial/constitutional presidents with a political background; and in the terms in which you describe 'political background', many might argue that we now have a monarch with an environmentalist 'political' background. It's hard to imagine any system of electing a head of state which somehow debars anyone who might have taken part in any form of political or electoral activity in the past. The issue is how to define the role and powers in such a way as to make that past more or less irrelevant. I'd accept that having a rival seat of power with a strong president could undermine a parliamentary democracy, but nobody seems to think that is the case in Ireland, say, or Germany. Yet in both cases, the largely ceremonial president has a political past of some sort.

Jonathan said...

I agree with the the Borthlas line on this. Loved the Private Eye headline (taken from Tom Paine?) 'Man in Hat sits on chair'. Helps to look at history, that of a number of non-royal semi-political Presidents: Mary Robinson (Ireland), Václav Havel (writer) (Czech Republic), Vytautas Landsbergis (musician, long story) (Lithuania), Manuel Azaña (writer) (Civil War Spain) etc etc. All fine. What about Wales, though? I might be a republican, but I have to ask what is likely to work, likely to happen in Gwalia Wen? Wales is not a State, so step one is to become one. Under the Westminster system, stage one l= Dominion Status. This would mean our getting say 85% Indy but accepting the Windsors. Very realistic prospect, but for the fact that so many Welsh politicians get hung up on the supposed connotations of 'Dominion' without any knowledge of the history, law and practice of how Dominion Status actually works. For Ireland, a useful transition. But would be a very workable pro tem compromise and a big advance for Wales. When we eventually come to making the move from Dominion 85% to Indy 100% if this is still a problem we can adopt the Australian fudge (Crown Republic). My outside bet: UK Monarchy only works with women on the throne. Name one good monarch between Elizabeth I and Victoria. Long list of fallible males. Male monarchy doesn't suit #metoo now, does it?

CapM said...

To Jonathan
How have you arrived at the 85% Indy figure for Dominion status?
Also what is the 15% comprise of?

Jonathan said...

Answer to CapM: I am trying to express the following:
85% - Wales raises most of the taxes it needs to pay for Wales. Nowhere near the case now. Big ones - we pay for our own Health Service. Raising taxes to run Education, Health, transport etc, and then being responsible for running Education, Health, transport etc would postulate a completely different Wales. Essentially, we'd go from being a dependent child to mid/late adolescence.
15% - think of NZ. For me, a very good precedent for Wales. No violence (cf Ireland). Slow meandering progress to de facto Indy. All very British, no written Constitution. Very rugged self-sufficient attitude, unlike us Welsh. Being me, I naturally think of ships. Kiwis started the New Zealand Shipping Company, to ship frozen lamb. When I was at P&O NZSCo was regarded as THE model shipping line. Wales lost Evan Thomas Radcliffe, Reardon-Smith etc. Still on the 15%, look at the Navy. NZ had HMS Achilles, of Graf Spee fame. Was she Royal Navy or what? NZ didn't build her but did...well, read Wiki. My point is that one of the big markers between Dominion and Indy status, in the 15% zone, is 'do you pay for Defence?' Wales would struggle to run a Navy at present. Partly because no taxes, partly because no organisation ready. Dominion Status would fix this over time. Look at our 3 fishery patrol vessels. Who pays, who organises? With Dominion Status, its flexible on what the Dominion takes on and when and how it does it. The 15% refers to the 'grown up' stuff like paying for those 'reserved powers' which Westminster claims to do so well - armed forces, running a currency, running diplomacy. Paying for your own Monarchy, if that's what the Welsh really want.