Wednesday 21 May 2014

Selfishness isn't enough

One of the more depressing aspects of what passes for debate in Wales about membership or otherwise of the EU is that it concentrates entirely on how much money and how many jobs Wales does or does not get as a result of membership.  It’s a very narrow and selfish way of looking at membership of any organisation.  Worse, it in some ways concedes the argument to the antis.
Whilst it’s true that many jobs in Wales ‘depend’ on the EU, that is saying little more than that extant employment patterns ‘depend’ on the status quo.  But that would be true for any ‘status quo’; and if the status quo changed, so would the employment patterns.  I seem to have a vague recollection of claims being made prior to entry into the then EEC that UK jobs ‘depended’ on trade with the rest of the world and would be damaged by membership.  It’s equally valid as an argument.
When it comes to Regional Aid, the antis are entirely correct when they say that, if the UK wasn’t making large payments to the EU, then it would be able to spend even more on regional policy within the UK.  Whether any UK government would actually do so or not is another question entirely, and the history of UK regional policy doesn’t give me much faith that they would.  But an argument in favour of membership of the EU based primarily on scepticism about whether any UK government would be as generous to Wales doesn’t seem to me to be a particularly well-based one.
And what if, by some amazing miracle, the situation in Wales were to be transformed, such that Wales became a net contributor to EU funds?  If the only argument in favour was that we get more out than we put in, then the logic flows the other way – which is pretty much the position of UKIP and Tory sceptics at a UK level: 'it costs us more than we get back'.  The point is that membership of any club requires a subscription, and if one of the aims of the club is an element of redistribution, then some members will contribute more than they get back, whilst others contribute less.  Every winner has to be matched by a willing loser somewhere else.  There has to be a better reason for joining any club than an expectation of benefiting at the expense of others. Universal selfishness leads, ultimately, to poverty for the majority.
And that gets us to the real economic debate about the EU, which is hidden behind claims about how much regional aid we get or how many jobs depend on membership.  The EU is a club which aims to enmesh and equalise the economies of Europe, through economic co-operation.  Redistribution is a key element of that (which is the underlying reason why the EU is more dependable than the UK in this context), but co-operation and redistributive policies are close to anathema for the Tories and UKIP; they want only a system of competition where the strong get stronger and the weak go to the wall.
That argument about co-operation, which is also about keeping the peace on a continent which was torn apart by war for centuries previously, is one which supporters of the EU seem unable or unwilling to put; but by failing to put it, they are in danger of conceding one of the basic points of the antis, which is that the only thing that matters is narrow economic self-interest.  There’s a lot of things that I don’t like about the way that the EU has evolved, and much that I’d like to change (although that’s a great deal wider than a self-interested renegotiation of the terms of membership which is all the Tories seem to be interested in); but given the choice of European co-operation or competition, I choose the former.  However, it’s a choice which isn’t being widely articulated.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Right answer but wrong analysis.

The EU, to those on mainland Europe, is all about peace and the level of economic prosperity necessary to maintain such. It has nothing to do with creating a European superstate or, as you like to think, 'redistribution of wealth'. Which country would ever want to be a beneficiary of German, French or Dutch wealth? No, each country wants to see its own living standards raised because of the greater opportunities for trade and inward investment (in return for cheaper labour), not because of handouts.

As for you comments regarding regional aid, the EU does not regard Wales as a nation. It see's Wales as one of many regions within the UK, albeit a desperately poor and desperately poorly managed region. Likewise when it comes to matters of inward investment. Wales is just one of many regions within the UK fighting for whatever is on offer.

There is no co-operation in Europe without competition. Because without competition there is no improvement. And without improvement there is no increase in prosperity.

We have so many lessons to learn here in Wales.

John Dixon said...

"The EU, to those on mainland Europe, is all about peace and the level of economic prosperity necessary to maintain such."

I agree. And from that perspective, locking in the state which has been the most bellicose over the centuries, namely the UK, ought to be a key part.

" It has nothing to do with ... 'redistribution of wealth'"

Perhaps not directly; but ensuring that all benefit, if not equally, then at least less unequally, is surely a key part of attaining " the level of economic prosperity necessary to maintain such"?

"As for you comments regarding regional aid, the EU does not regard Wales as a nation. It see's Wales as one of many regions within the UK, albeit a desperately poor and desperately poorly managed region."

Unless and until Wales achieves 'independence', that situation will remain. But I'm not sure that it even sees Wales as a region; Objective One and Convergence funding have been based on the creation of an entirely new region within Wales. From a Brussels perspective, Wales surely looks like two regions by now.

"There is no co-operation in Europe without competition. Because without competition there is no improvement. And without improvement there is no increase in prosperity."

We're a lot further apart on this one - "without competition there is no improvement" looks like an axiomatic statement to me. Co-operation between the states of Europe rather than competition takes us right back to "The EU ... is all about peace". What is voluntary pooling of resources and sovereignty about if not adopting a more co-operative approach? It's not the same though as abolishing competition between companies. As for competition being the only means of achieving improvement, there's a huge gulf between our perspectives - but it would be off-topic to expand on that here.

Anonymous said...

Enjoyed the reply. Thank you.