tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post7599705092622686966..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: From the pastJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-59100054439335088222014-08-11T11:15:42.623+01:002014-08-11T11:15:42.623+01:00Anon,
A brave assertion, but it's like a chic...Anon,<br /><br />A brave assertion, but it's like a chicken and egg question. Whilst the foundation of a movement to promote a particular national identity can certainly increase the attachment of people to that identity, could such a movement ever be established unless there was a degree of national identity already in existence for it to promote? History - including the history of nationality and national attachment - doesn't come in nice easy chunks which have beginnings and ends; it comes as a continuum in which identities and nationalities sometimes strengthen and sometimes weaken. It's only be trying to pretend otherwise that anyone can make such sweeping assertions as yours.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-63255628767217397772014-08-11T11:02:18.257+01:002014-08-11T11:02:18.257+01:00There isn't too much difference between the pe...There isn't too much difference between the people of Wales and Palestine.<br /><br />The Palestinians only 'discovered' their own identity when the PLO came into being. The Welsh did likewise when Plaid Cymru started up.<br /><br />Thank goodness the English aren't as horrid as the Israeli's otherwise we might find life a whole lot toucher this side of the border. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-63971518828139266682014-08-10T17:46:37.840+01:002014-08-10T17:46:37.840+01:00I fear we are not making much progress. The Welsh ...I fear we are not making much progress. The Welsh partake in sports events under the Union Flag and are blind to the fact that it does not represent us (thankfully).<br />Being a bit of a WW1 geek ,my reading of the language of the time; it was that the decisions about war and every other major issue was made in England by the English ,so people and other powers just said it as it was. Again ,no change there, but now the powers that be, use Britain more as a “courtesy” to keep the “other natives” happy<br />Spirit of BMEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-88907197758028196912014-08-09T18:52:05.537+01:002014-08-09T18:52:05.537+01:00Anon
I suspect that Solomon faced with demands fo...Anon <br />I suspect that Solomon faced with demands for devolution would have opted for a Federal system of Government.<br /> but in answer to your point there will never be a situation where the people of England or Scotland for that matter will be in a position to grant independence for Wales <br /><br /> In 1914 people were well aware that the Russian navy had been wiped out by the Japanese navy only a few years earlier hence the editorial<br />G Horton-Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-7510903559194108822014-08-07T14:27:53.190+01:002014-08-07T14:27:53.190+01:00But Mr Jones, isn't that what most English and...But Mr Jones, isn't that what most English and Scottish want for Wales too, independence.<br /><br />How long is it going to take for you and yours to persuade your neighbours? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-4314764391026982702014-08-06T21:02:06.815+01:002014-08-06T21:02:06.815+01:00John
Not sure which anon this is but here we go. I...John<br />Not sure which anon this is but here we go. Israel exists today because the West<br />was and still is on a guilt trip about the holocaust. Israel as a land entity was forced upon the peoples of the Eastern Mediterranean and the Palestinians are the victims of Western Politics.<br /> Looking back the Crusades are part of the same process. The West wanted Jerusalem to control the overland spice Trade from the far East.<br />Am I a demon in being committed to Welsh Independence No I want the basic right to life on my terms not those decided for me by my neighbours<br /> G Horton-Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-53171697005991115732014-08-06T11:01:02.059+01:002014-08-06T11:01:02.059+01:00I think you need to review your own history. Your ...I think you need to review your own history. Your current positivism is entirely misplaced.<br /><br />Yes, it is true many brave soldiers of Wales in many brave regiments have fought and died on the battlefields of Europe and elsewhere over the past century. But Wales as a 'nation' has never unequivocally allied its support to the political powers of Scotland and England in times of national crisis. Nor indeed has the population of the country ever attempted to rid itself of these and countless other 'militant trouble makers' over the decades.<br /><br />Parallels with the Israeli/Palestine predicament are easy to spot. Israeli's have nothing against peaceful loving and peaceful living Palestinians. And Palestinians have nothing against peaceful loving and peaceful living Israeli's. But when either population allows its own 'militants' to cause annoyance and irritation for the other side trouble will ensue.<br /><br />Wales will only find a peaceful and rightful place within the UK when it too finds the courage to stand up, single out and confront its own demons lurking within the population.<br /><br />Until such, English and Scottish attitudes to Wales and Welshness will not change.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com