tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post6870890767119686340..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: So what changed?John Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-55808447693935916722016-06-07T02:05:12.874+01:002016-06-07T02:05:12.874+01:00Of course all we will be asked on the ballot paper...Of course all we will be asked on the ballot paper is do we want to remain a member of the EU or not? We wont be asked if we want a 'peoples europe' or a 'bankers europe' (though many of us - like Spirit of BME above - have strong views on this). But what does seem clear is that welsh economy stands to suffer considerably if the UK leaves the EU - the figures for the numbers of welsh jobs reliant on eu membership and welsh businesses reliant on tariff free trade with the eu single market are clear testament to this. <br /><br />And anyone who thinks the new hard right government led by Boris Johnson that will emerge at westminister will compensate wales for these grievous losses is frankly living in cloud cuckoo land. So it goes without saying that voting to Remain should be a straightforward choice for any plaid member or supporter. <br /><br />And widening things slightly it would be nice to think the people of wales as a whole will reject the ugly racially charged British chauvinism which has marked the leave campaign.Indeed if wales joins scotland in voting to remain - but voters in england take us out - it could be very significant in terms of future political developments.Leigh Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10598475954140926742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-53652111935655206542016-05-28T12:09:54.025+01:002016-05-28T12:09:54.025+01:00I think Plaid is as confused on this issue as it w...I think Plaid is as confused on this issue as it was in 1975. <br />Plaid – The Party of (not for) Wales is once again fighting to ensure the success of Englandandwales in the EU, but if you are a nationalist your main aim is to become a full member, with all the rights and privileges that brings, there are no real privileges being a member of any club if you are barred from the top table.<br />I do not believe the left should beat themselves up on their change of heart, Mr Elis Thomas stating he was wrong (what`s new!) is the latest, as they were right on a fundamental, in that at the heart of this monster is a very powerful banking financial interests that truly call the shots.<br />The EU is like a five-star hotel; what everybody sees when they stay is what is called the front-of-house (foh) management, they decide how to spend the budget, the colour of the wall paper, napkins and what goodies they give away. The real power is the back-of-house (boh)management usually hidden away on the second floor and they decide the financial parameters the marketing strategy and rules of discipline and enforcement. <br />The EU have sold the foh aspect and I believe the left have bought into this image, what they should ask themselves is, do they now accept the whole package? which only appears when dealing with the real issues like Greece and what will become the Italian, Spanish and Austrian banking crisis. These financial interests, the banks and their association with the IMF and the Bank of International Settlements will be in control no matter what the foh looks like and the Commission will continue to act as a conduit between the two. <br />Spirit of BMEnoreply@blogger.com