tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post5815042726407625362..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: The no deal that never wasJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-7924432407031552272018-08-28T16:18:37.406+01:002018-08-28T16:18:37.406+01:00Your reply is very logical. but in negotiating bei...Your reply is very logical. but in negotiating being logical is still on the “wish list”, what delivers an agreement is the systems within administration of both parties that are flexible and the authority to say “yes” is not challenged later. If that confidence is not there both parties are not going to put forward their “best and final” position.<br />Whatever, we think of the English system of government, one has to admire the fact that it has evolved over centuries of trials and tribulations and the channels of communications in times of crisis are well tested. The same cannot be said of the Brussels, where the current system is about forty years old and has never faced such an issue as this in the past.<br />Talking to business people in Europe they have no idea what is going on and the press are not covering this issue -in fact you have to look for the coverage in the papers. Brussels went on holiday (as usual) in August and the system will not be up and running until mid-September and business people in the 27 are now concerned that they cannot get their message to the desks of those that are formulating the policy.<br />So, logically of course a deal would be of value to both parties, but the system may well fail to deliver it – take it from me who got old before my time in negotiating with Japanese companies and government departments.<br />Spirit of BMEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-58582091316968362742018-08-28T09:17:49.898+01:002018-08-28T09:17:49.898+01:00Spirit,
I think a 'true' no-deal is highl...Spirit,<br /><br />I think a 'true' no-deal is highly unlikely, because the immediate consequences would be so profound, and that's why even the government's so-called no-deal preparations are assuming that there is a deal or series of deals to enable things to carry on as they are at present for a while at least. Perhaps it will be at one minute to midnight before such deals are agreed, and they will inevitably involve a humiliating climb-down by HMG, and chaos within her party, but I simply can't believe that any government would be so stupid and incompetent as to agree nothing and find that trade and movement grind to a complete halt within days. The sensible thing would be to 'delay' the implementation of the red lines (i.e. forget them for a while at least), agree to continued membership of the EEA for the foreseeable future, and take the time to negotiate properly on the successor phase - a negotiation process likely to take 10 years or so. Brexiteers would go bananas, of course (probably the bendy sort that Brussels never tried to ban), and the Tory party would implode (a very worthwhile outcome), which is why it seems to me to be unlikely that such an outbreak of common sense will occur.<br /><br /><i>"We are told by the BBC that there are over two hundred economic migrants in France risking life and limb every night and trying to board trucks, trains and ships to get to England. So, these people are not stupid and why are they putting their life on the line and wishing to leave EU (27) where they would be safe and could thrive. Do they know something about the EU that we do not?"</i> The question here is not about whether those 200 know, or think they know, something that the rest of us don't, but what percentage does that 200 comprise of the total number of economic migrants in the EU? There are a lot more people not making that effort.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-81046051993644519922018-08-27T16:34:23.727+01:002018-08-27T16:34:23.727+01:00I have to confess that I do not follow the daily s...I have to confess that I do not follow the daily spin by the Brexiteers or Remainers, partly due to the fact I have a life to live.<br />In terms of what might be good for everybody`s financial wellbeing and expectations, - if HMG have a deal or no deal will depend more on whether US or Chinese economy falls into a sharp recession.<br /> I expect there will be disruption if there is no deal, this is a certainty as there are people in the system that make things happen in this very divisive question, that will create that and the Brexiteers should be more honest about that.<br />To those who view the exit with interpretation, could I add one clear fact that must give us hope.<br />We are told by the BBC that there are over two hundred economic migrants in France risking life and limb every night and trying to board trucks, trains and ships to get to England. So, these people are not stupid and why are they putting their life on the line and wishing to leave EU (27) where they would be safe and could thrive. Do they know something about the EU that we do not?<br />Spirit of BMEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-59550911974954398092018-08-25T12:50:12.279+01:002018-08-25T12:50:12.279+01:00Rabb is no different to the rest of this governmen...Rabb is no different to the rest of this government (and much of the Opposition) in having an irrational need to "have their cake and eat it". I also question the extent of his personal belief in much of the garbage he trots out as it is riddled with implausible notions. dafishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04216920242825385976noreply@blogger.com