tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post2171449193872666498..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: Inequality drives migrationJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-35919463896897427082016-10-09T09:44:37.329+01:002016-10-09T09:44:37.329+01:00Anon,
I'm not sure why you think that I'v...Anon,<br /><br />I'm not sure why you think that I've painted a rose-tinted vision of mass immigration, nor why you believe that I support mass migration. I'm not sure that you've understood the post at all. Nor do I believe that there's any sort of concerted effort by anyone to encourage mass migration, although I do accept that multi-national capital would prefer a homgeneity of culture and an erosion of national identity.<br /><br />My point was twofold, in essence:<br /><br />Firstly, that people should have the right to go where they wish. The starting point for Labour and Tory alike seems to be that 'we' should have that right, but that 'they' should not.<br /><br />Secondly, that mass migration is a direct result of an unfair sharing of the earth's resources. My starting point is that we need to share resources more fairly - and yes, that means a cost to us - but mainstream politicians seem to be starting from the viewpoint that 'what we have we hold' and we should pull up the drawbridge to prevent anyone else accessing it.<br /><br />Those are basic philosophical positions; they don't translate into support for, or encouragement of, mass migration; merely opposition to attempts to prevent it rather than address the causes.<br /><br />By the way, it isn't migration per se that erodes anyone's national character, it's more about the approach to assimilation and acceptance. If I moved to France, for instance, I'd expect to have to speak French, not force the authorities to deal with me in English or Welsh. The same applies to moving to Spain, or Catalonia, or any other country - I'd expect to have to conform with at least part of the local culture. I actually don't think that there's anything wrong with an expectation that people who migrate to another country should adapt rather than expect others to adapt to them (although there is scope for significant debate about the extent and approach to doing that - too much for a comment on this thread).<br /><br />And I agree with your statement that <i>"When we import masses from problem countries with war, terror, intolerance and inequality, we are not 'fixing' them"</i> - that is at the core of what I was saying about global inequality. But in the absence of any serious effort to fix that inequality, the fact that taking people doesn't fix the problem is not a good enough reason to refuse them access, even more so when the problems that they are fleeing are largely of our making in the first place.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-75081062029606274142016-10-09T09:26:10.438+01:002016-10-09T09:26:10.438+01:00I agree with you that drawing up lists of foreigne...I agree with you that drawing up lists of foreigners working in firms is worrying, but the rose-tinted vision of mass-immigration you are portraying under the guise of "freedom of movement" and a "basic right" is equally worrying. <br /><br />You state government's role should be to "protect human rights and freedoms". I agree. Our government should protect us from mass unwanted immigration that erodes our national character (especially in Wales) and our basic human right to raise our families in safe communities. <br /><br />There is a concerted effort among the 'globalists' to erode national identity and a sense of belonging to place and history. Mass immigration is a powerful way to bring us closer and closer to that goal. <br /><br />It's time we started to admit that multiculturalism has failed. When we import masses from problem countries with war, terror, intolerance and inequality, we are not 'fixing' them, we are just importing the problems. As a consequence our communities become less safe and tolerant places to live.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-77343122732047199022016-10-06T14:03:47.279+01:002016-10-06T14:03:47.279+01:00Well said, thanks goodness there are a still sane ...Well said, thanks goodness there are a still sane voices around.<br /><br />The hateful rhetoric is bad enough, but the fact the Home Secretary is being so cynically opportunist in using it to chase UKIP votes, but not believing in it herself, really is disgraceful. <br /><br />The right wing press have a to answer for, they rightly looked into anti-Semitism claims in the Labour Party, but happily cheer a Prime Minister whose conference speech could have been written by Nigel Farage and was applauded by Marine Le Pen, Leader of the French National Front. <br /><br />There will be no freedom of movement, no hassle free travel to the continent or tariff free access to the single market and that’s what a majority in Wales voted for on 23rd June. I hope they’re happy with their choice because it’s a dystopian future I want no part of.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com