tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post1510982252278193936..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: Can opener MorganJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-68628879572781004402009-06-02T16:41:42.149+01:002009-06-02T16:41:42.149+01:00Captain Birdseye,
Whilst I wouldn't use the same ...Captain Birdseye,<br /><br />Whilst I wouldn't use the same words that you use to describe Plaid's aim (nor would you expect me too), you seem to be asking what Plaid is for, other than to achieve its stated aims. I think you've answered your own question.<br /><br />But back to the Conservatives in Wales - what is their vision of the future? If they have one, they certainly haven't articulated it anywhere as far as I can see.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-87657965842764147362009-05-31T13:04:55.055+01:002009-05-31T13:04:55.055+01:00Dear old Capt Birdseye sailed on an English ship w...Dear old Capt Birdseye sailed on an English ship which kept sinking. Plaid is for quitting the Union ,he is dead right,- England is going down the pan.<br />Lables of Conservatives ,Labour and who ever, is not the point ,its about those who believe that England and its laws have the right to govern in Wales and that Betty Battenburgh is anointed by God and is his representative on Earth.- NURSE !!!Spirit of BMEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-62922857669477342672009-05-31T12:29:11.564+01:002009-05-31T12:29:11.564+01:00Interesting use of a term, rip.... Makes it sound ...Interesting use of a term, rip.... Makes it sound like Plaid want to remove Wales physically from the UK, float it out into the Celtic Sea.... It reminds me of the old Nationwide logo for the Kilbrandon Report that showed Wales and Scotland attached to England with a chain link and that link gradually being pulled apart as Wales and Scotland did indeed drift off. I think that helped fix in the minds of those devo sceptic people that was what was entailed, a physical separation. There is too much shared history and bonds of affection for that ever to happen and emotive terms like rip or separation will only help strengthen that erroneous view.<br /><br />Plaid wants Wales to join the wider world community as a nation, not be smothered under the UK blanket (if I can use my own emotive terms). Plaid wants independence because it believes that Welsh solutions for Welsh problems are better solutions than ones imposed from above. It has a vision for the people of Wales and policies to match. To say that Plaid is a one issue party is as absurd as suggesting that the Unionists are a one issue party. They do have dilemmas, how to balance on the backs to two ponies, Wales and Westminster at the same time, but they aren't single issue parties either.Cibwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621705905770341542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-18142054618274018262009-05-31T12:04:20.300+01:002009-05-31T12:04:20.300+01:00This comment comes from the mistaken belief that b...This comment comes from the mistaken belief that britain is one nation and there is no fundamental difference between the Welsh, Scots and English.<br />Why did Ireland fight for its independence and isn't it better for breaking away? The answer is yes.<br />The people of Scotland are quickly coming to this realisation too.<br /><br />As for Plaid I'm coming round to the opinion that it would now be advisable to sever its alliance with Labour in the Assembly.<br />Association with this discredited British party will drag down the potential Plaid vote in the coming General Election. A good strategy would be to leave the coalition.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-37021016926681006942009-05-30T17:28:36.395+01:002009-05-30T17:28:36.395+01:00If Plaid talk about independence then people will ...If Plaid talk about independence then people will rightly see them as not focused on the issues that really affect their lives.<br /><br />On the other hand, take the idea of independence away, and ask yourself: What is Palid Cymru for? <br /><br />The main 3 parties already offer more than enough choice on the a) libertarian - authoritarian axis and the b)left-right (bigger-smaller state) axis.<br /><br />Seems that the only differential between the main 3 and Palid Cymru is that the latter wants to rip Wales away from the rest of the UK.<br /><br />And, as hardly anyone wants this to happen, apart from the Nationalist zelots, I ask again:<br /><br />What is Palid Cymru for?Captain Birdseyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-14839201171224474212009-05-30T16:12:21.577+01:002009-05-30T16:12:21.577+01:00John I have never read such dross. I believe what ...John I have never read such dross. I believe what Jonathan Morgan was saying is that the Welsh Conservatives are fighing a against a socialist dogma peddled by Plaid and Labour that hand out large amounts of taxpayers money on ideas like free prescriptions will somehow advance us economically because everyone has equality of outcome. It's fiscal madness and its completely unsustainable. You ask your former economic advisor if I'm wrong!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-74608774754807437282009-05-30T10:55:31.863+01:002009-05-30T10:55:31.863+01:00A good summing up of the Tories' dilemma. There is...A good summing up of the Tories' dilemma. There is a latent nationalism in Wales which needs to be convinced of the ineffectual ability of both Labour and Tory parties to provide the right answers for Wales. The key is Scotland. When Scotland votes for independence and a referendum is won the Welsh will wake up and start to wonder. 1989 was the domino collapse in Europe; Britain will follow suit before too long.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.com