tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post9085835969600512636..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: Progressive patriotism is an oxymoronJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-70110492325536733162019-12-31T18:24:23.262+00:002019-12-31T18:24:23.262+00:00The phenomenon in Wales known as 'internationa...The phenomenon in Wales known as 'internationalism' is an attempt to reconcile two irreconcilable things. On the one hand, we have the economic, social, cultural, and political fact of Wales. On the other hand, we have an English world of discourse in which no other self-existent nationality is conceivable in this Island. It is therefore not permissible for Wales to be Wales as such. As there is clearly something here that is not England, an elegant solution is for it to be *everywhere*. This also has the advantage of relieving political leaders in Wales of any responsibility for whatever happens here.Mel Morgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-53489096829860381952019-12-31T08:54:22.728+00:002019-12-31T08:54:22.728+00:00I agree, JD. And some of the most distressing of E...I agree, JD. And some of the most distressing of English nationalists are those of other nationalities.Mel Morgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-84953846174806994262019-12-31T08:11:39.711+00:002019-12-31T08:11:39.711+00:00Anon,
Thank you for providing such a good illustr...Anon,<br /><br />Thank you for providing such a good illustration of the way in which English nationalists seruiously believe themselves superior to all others.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-6223639683702441972019-12-30T18:10:56.051+00:002019-12-30T18:10:56.051+00:00You are very mistaken to talk of English nationali...You are very mistaken to talk of English nationalism. The Tory party has put English values at the heart of its mission statement, valued shared by roughly half of all people (by number) living in Scotland and a great many in Wales.<br /><br />Adherence to and acceptance of these 'English values' drives the UK economy and generates all the wealth for sharing amongst the constituent parts of the UK. <br /><br />We don't have any of our own values here in Wales because of our determination to continue living with a mythical past. It's a great shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-81877025332641473252019-12-30T16:44:24.280+00:002019-12-30T16:44:24.280+00:00It seems that all politics is riddled with contrad...It seems that all politics is riddled with contradictions, dichotomies, oxymorons etc etc. That condition becomes more intense as politicians posture grotesquely in their attempts to be all things to all people. Yet the very same posturers have the temerity to slag off people like our own Neil McEvoy as populist where that word is used in its extreme pejorative sense. Lot more honesty and lot less bullshit could be welcome in 2020. dafishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04216920242825385976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-24193446731665477562019-12-30T13:30:28.285+00:002019-12-30T13:30:28.285+00:00Not sure I can agree entirely with your analysis, ...Not sure I can agree entirely with your analysis, which appears to depend largely on false dichotomy.Never the less, the phenomenon in Wales called 'internationalism' warrants close examination. It is predicated on unacknowledged patriotism in favour of another country.Mel Morgannoreply@blogger.com