tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post852546904778119035..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: Who to vote for?John Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-2188607144669113212009-11-15T22:25:43.298+00:002009-11-15T22:25:43.298+00:00Labour should be worried about Plaid making an iss...Labour should be worried about Plaid making an issue of having so many members having a vote, as it is very good evidence that the current affiliation tick box system is being abused, to raise money for Labour.<br />An incoming Tory Government (not that I want one) will surely sort this out, denying Labour of funds that they are currently receiving, without the knowledge or consent of the union members.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-4472053554287537822009-11-13T15:53:36.240+00:002009-11-13T15:53:36.240+00:00The amount of time Plaid Cymru members are spendin...The amount of time Plaid Cymru members are spending on this farce confirms just how Labour devolution has absorbed Welsh nationalism. It is the tar pit of the independence movement. And, of course, even if Plaid preferred a particular candidate, any sign of support would be counter-productive. Thus the rise in support of the most British nationalist, Huw Lewis who, I predict, will win. Labour members want revenge for devolution and the coalition.<br /><br />This is threatening to become a repeat of the time in 2000 when Plaid AMs naïvely paved the way for St Rhodri, prolonging actual, if not electoral, Labour hegemony to date. In evidence, look at the political affiliations of quango appointees.Wales is still Labour-run.<br /><br />To paraphrase Tallyrand, Plaid AMs have learned little and forgotten much.Pelagiusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-9273327253272082892009-11-13T11:49:25.856+00:002009-11-13T11:49:25.856+00:00My mother who is a Plaid member and a member of a ...My mother who is a Plaid member and a member of a trade union has also received a ballot. She isn't interested in the race but there is clearly a window of opportunity for people that have an agenda, to have a vote.<br /><br />Of course, there might be an opportunity in this situation for Labour to claim how deeply their roots go into Welsh society, in that their election embraces people who aren't in the party or are even opposed to the party.<br /><br />That would contradict the partyist 'Labour's needs come first' stance that the two male candidates at least seem to be adhering to.Illtyd Lukenoreply@blogger.com