tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post8011753628033174899..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: The man is not for turningJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-54260461867839746932008-10-20T10:01:00.000+01:002008-10-20T10:01:00.000+01:00Anon,I agree with Cibwr on this.I almost hesitate ...Anon,<BR/><BR/>I agree with Cibwr on this.<BR/><BR/>I almost hesitate to name a comparison country given recent events, but for the purpose of the argument, in which way do you think that the degree of independence enjoyed by, say, Ireland is inadequate for them and / or would be inadequate for Wales?John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-24994417703410875892008-10-18T10:34:00.000+01:002008-10-18T10:34:00.000+01:00There is no such thing as total independence in th...There is no such thing as total independence in the modern World, we are all interlinked. The EU is a reality that we can't ignore. As for only having 4 MEPs that is only 1 half of the EU legislature. On independence that would go up to more like 10 or 12, plus we would have votes at the Council of Ministers - the more powerful half of the legislature. Plus I think we would find ourselves with a lot of allies in the Parliament. The EU does seem genuinely more concerned with supporting its less prosperous regions and nations. Something the United Kingdom seems less good at. Separatism is a dead term just used to smear those of us who support real independence in an interdependent world.Cibwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621705905770341542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-27135661832856784752008-10-18T01:33:00.000+01:002008-10-18T01:33:00.000+01:00John, What's the point of Eventually achieving Ind...John, What's the point of Eventually achieving Independenece only to throw it away by joining The Euro along with an European Superstate - so instead of Having Welsh Laws Made in England, They'll be made in Brussels Instead. Not if but when Wales gets it's Independence wouldn't it be better to get COMPLETE Independence rather than losing our soverignity to Europe and Letting The French or Germans decide what's best for us. We ONLY have 4 MEPS out of more than 700 for pity sake - The EU cares less about Wales than Westminster does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-6137465646460890052008-10-17T15:14:00.000+01:002008-10-17T15:14:00.000+01:00Bob,I don't think there's anything 'separatist' ab...Bob,<BR/><BR/>I don't think there's anything 'separatist' about wanting full membership of the EU, including adopting the Euro as our currency. For me, the real 'separatists' are people like UKIP and the Tories, who want to cut these islands off from the rest of Europe.<BR/><BR/>And I seem to recall that even the Lib Dems have been backtracking on their commitment to the Euro...John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-51743858070016494572008-10-17T13:35:00.000+01:002008-10-17T13:35:00.000+01:00Globalisation has gone too far..local grown food i...Globalisation has gone too far..<BR/>local grown food is fresher and helps local economies.<BR/>In my opinion Wales has an unique cultural identity already (as have Scotland and Ulster) without the need for any political seperatism.<BR/>I suppose you will disagree John!Rhetoric Inneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09440000039926967641noreply@blogger.com