tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post6993192623641313217..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: Looking past the flamesJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-47209628013987511232020-06-11T15:30:39.157+01:002020-06-11T15:30:39.157+01:00Anon,
"...the point the whole world is strug...Anon,<br /><br /><i>"...the point the whole world is struggling with is how to 'extinguish the fire'"</i> Actually no, the whole world isn't struggling with that. Some (and I include Trump and Johnson in that) are merely trying - at best - to ensure a controlled burn; they are making no effort whatsoever to extinguish the fire. If they were, they might be taking notice of the rather more successful strategies being employed elsewhere and giving some thought to how they might be adapted for use here.<br /><br /><i>"...there will be plenty more mistakes along the way"</i> Yes, of course there will. But that's no reason for complacency or not trying to avoid mistakes, let alone for deliberate pursuit of actions which they know are going to make things worse.<br /><br /><i>"An earlier quarantine would have led to fewer Covid deaths but a corresponding jump in Flu and other associated deaths."</i> Assuming (from your style) that you are the same Anon who regularly comments here, we established a while ago that statistics isn't exactly a speciality of yours. The number of 'excess deaths' is a good indicator that those same people would not have died at this time had there not been a pandemic. Whilst some of those would have died from other causes, the number would not have been 'corresponding', and suggesting that it would have been is just plain silly. They would have died eventually, of course - one statistic on which I would hope we can agree (there's no hope for you if we can't) is that human mortality overall is 100%. Everything else is about timing and cause, and what we know is that - to date - around 60,000 people in the UK have died earlier than they would have done in other circumstances. That might well mean that we will (at some point) see a statistical deficit of deaths because the people who would otherwise have died at that point have already gone. Given the 100% statistic, it all must zero out in the end, but that's not much of an excuse for pursuing a policy of allowing large swathes of the population to die earlier than they otherwise would have done.<br /><br /><i>"Better or worse, who knows?"</i> Just about everybody except, apparently, you. That's what 'excess deaths' means.<br /><br /><i>"...who cares who set the first building alight or who fanned the flames"</i> A lot of people care, actually. You don't, obviously - that is your right. But when they're still at it, I think it's an entirely valid question to be asking now.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-72660319256110958572020-06-11T11:53:38.248+01:002020-06-11T11:53:38.248+01:00I think the point you miss and the point the whole...I think the point you miss and the point the whole world is struggling with is how to 'extinguish the fire', no matter the building.<br /><br />It's hard stuff to get your head around, granted, but the problem isn't going to go away and there will be plenty more mistakes along the way. That's the nature of what we are dealing with. An earlier quarantine would have led to fewer Covid deaths but a corresponding jump in Flu and other associated deaths. Better or worse, who knows?<br /><br />At them moment, who cares who set the first building alight or who fanned the flames. Hopefully there will be time enough in the future to ponder over such questions.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com