tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post5689027649333061764..comments2024-03-02T10:38:04.108+00:00Comments on Borthlas: An offer we can't refuseJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-16625707634857124132011-05-26T16:45:54.780+01:002011-05-26T16:45:54.780+01:00It made me laugh the other day when I was listenin...It made me laugh the other day when I was listening to Radio Wales phone in. The Scottish Labour guy on there said that the debt levels of the UK state would have to be shared out amongst any seceding countries such as Wales and Scotland. A large chunk of this debt....around 850 billion pounds can be traced to bailing out the banking system. So, lets get this right.....when the times are good, and even not so good, the bankers and indeed London benefits but when the wheels come off, Wales will be held as being responsible for coming up with money for the bail-outs if we want to go our own way. At least you could argue to a degree that the Scots to have a financial centre and benefited more than we did. But Wales?! You couldn't make it up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-48692532649813500782011-05-26T15:38:29.146+01:002011-05-26T15:38:29.146+01:00I am all for a wider debate on this subject –as yo...I am all for a wider debate on this subject –as you call for.<br />I just have this feeling in my water, knowing the “chaps” in the English Establishment, as I do that they never allow anything to happen unless it enforces the Law of English Supremacy.<br />Nothing will happen on this issue unless the City of London gives it the go ahead and they are satisfied that the majority of people ( England) will not be threatened by competition bought about by a more inventive regime in Scotland and Wales.<br />HMG in Westminster will need to design- in a mechanism where they have ultimate control, but with a payoff that when times are hard the “Regional” Governments (as the chaps call them) carry the can, thus enhancing the advantages of Union.Spirit of BMEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-12081799401830304672011-05-26T10:37:33.865+01:002011-05-26T10:37:33.865+01:00Boncath,
I'm not a fan of offers we can't...Boncath,<br /><br />I'm not a fan of offers we can't refuse either, but sometimes we need to recognise their existence. The question really is how we react. Trying tor efuse or put conditions on such an offer really doesn't seem the right response for a nationalist, so teh question has to be how can we see it as an opportunity and set out to maximise it.<br /><br />Macsen,<br /><br />Couldn't agree more about the need to show confidence rather than timidity. Although I sometimes wonder if it isn't a case of timidity, but a case of people not agreeing with their own party's aims.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-45668994362918522252011-05-25T21:44:49.667+01:002011-05-25T21:44:49.667+01:00Plaid would be better off having confidence and ar...Plaid would be better off having confidence and arguing for Wales to have the same compentences as the Basque lands within the Spanish state - that is collect all taxes. <br /><br />Plaid could point to the Basque Country being among the wealthies areas of Spain, it's similarity in terms of geographic size, population, heavy industry heritage, language issues etc. <br /><br />It would show a leap of faith and confidence which Plaid seem to lack, but it's honest it's a decent benchmark and it's transparent.<br /><br />MacsenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-21620106898472803662011-05-25T20:29:05.324+01:002011-05-25T20:29:05.324+01:00John
I am not sure I like the idea of we will tell...John<br />I am not sure I like the idea of we will tell you what you are getting --its an offer you cant refuse.<br />Sounds like the pitch of a well known double glazing firm who spent 4 hours telling me that 12 k <br />was an excellent deal. I turned it down only to be phoned an hour later to say would I agree to 3k No!<br /><br />I believe that it is necessary for us to devolve the taxation financial stream in sync with the devolution of powers<br /><br />It is also necesary for the Welsh Goverment to have its own Bank and the ability to raise finance for all its activitiesBoncathnoreply@blogger.com