tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post4270999039747478510..comments2024-03-26T09:38:39.888+00:00Comments on Borthlas: Look what the wind's blown inJohn Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-15991531464793715742012-03-09T16:52:24.261+00:002012-03-09T16:52:24.261+00:00I examined the data I found in more detail and hav...I examined the data I found in more detail and have posted an article about it <a href="http://welshnotbritish.blogspot.com/2012/03/hindsight-is-20-20.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />Thanks for posting the original article. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11475962539522399975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-45576661937140510422012-03-07T17:50:00.408+00:002012-03-07T17:50:00.408+00:00Glyndo,
"it strikes me that you think that t...Glyndo,<br /><br /><i>"it strikes me that you think that the starting points of the report's authors are reasonable, but you don't agree with their conclusion."</i><br /><br />No, that's not what I said. It's reasonable for them as writers of this paper to start with previously published work, but the result of that is that their conclusions are only ever going to be as good as that previously published work. And I'm arguing that that previous work is flawed, not 'just because I disagree with it' but for the reasons set out in the blog. If the premise is invalid, then all the good methodical work in the world won't produce a supportable conclusion from it.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-50423244170333010982012-03-07T01:03:34.178+00:002012-03-07T01:03:34.178+00:00"One of the big advantages of renewables is p..."One of the big advantages of renewables is precisely that they are not vulnerable to fuel price shocks during their operational life"<br /><br />But the back up generation they depend upon do.<br /><br />In reading of your article, it strikes me that you think that the starting points of the report's authors are reasonable, but you don't agree with their conclusion. If so, point out where they are wrong. "I don't agree" doesn't count.Glyndonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-23240673685181064992012-03-06T16:57:36.894+00:002012-03-06T16:57:36.894+00:00Apart from the fact that we do not benefit directl...Apart from the fact that we do not benefit directly it also shows a complete lack of forethought.<br /><br />In exactly the same way as they are going to have to spend billions moving their WMDs from Scotland. They are also going to have to spend on building new renewables just to make up for the drop of around 5% or so that the UK will lose when Scotland goes.<br /><br />Where do you suppose they will try and build all these new turbines?<br /><br />And what happens when the UK doesn't reach the target?<br /><br />Will the UK be fined? Will the UK have to pay countries like Spain, Germany or even Scotland for a share of it's carbon emissions?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11475962539522399975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-77801746976576680702012-03-06T12:41:24.909+00:002012-03-06T12:41:24.909+00:00Stuart,
You're right - Scotland (and to a les...Stuart,<br /><br />You're right - Scotland (and to a lesser extent, Wales) is over-performing and thereby helping the UK as a whole to meet its targets. There's nothing wrong with that per se; both Scotland and Wales have greater potential for renewables production than does England, on a per capita basis. The question, though, is surely not how we stop that over-performance, but how we ensure that we benefit from it.John Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447224248021209852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411161795798360588.post-50008638354978817822012-03-06T12:18:17.344+00:002012-03-06T12:18:17.344+00:00If you look at this graph you can clearly see that...If you look at <a href="https://restats.decc.gov.uk/cms/capacity-by-country-1/" rel="nofollow">this graph</a> you can clearly see that Scotland has the majority of the UK renewables. I know it is from 2010 but how much would it have changed in the last year or so?<br /><br />By the way if someone has a better link for more accurate figures then please share as I'd like to look into this in more detail.<br /><br />Using those figures I've done some quick maths and it shows that the % of renewables for each UK "region" is as follows.<br /><br />Scotland - 47%<br />England - 40%<br />Wales - 8%<br />N Ire - 4%<br /><br />(figures rounded down)<br /><br />Yet population works out as<br /><br />England - 84%<br />Scotland - 8%<br />Wales - 5%<br />N Ireland - 2%<br /><br />(again figures rounded down)<br /><br />Two things are obvious.<br /><br />1. When (not if) Scotland votes yes any hope of reaching a renewables target goes with it. Maybe this is part of their plan and they can agree an extension to the deadline even though they have historically fallen short of previous targets.<br /><br />2. The rest of the UK is subsidising "England" to meet the UK quota.<br /><br />And yet when we oppose turbines we are called NIMBYs!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11475962539522399975noreply@blogger.com